Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton lamented that she could have been “gutsier” in the 2016 presidential campaign during a radio interview with the BBC.

The 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, who was joined by her daughter Chelsea Clinton in the interview, discussed the state of U.S. politics and reflected on the last election on BBC’s Radio 4s Today show Tuesday. The interview began with the host, Mishal Husain, asking about their book, The Book of Gutsy Women, and what it means to be a gutsy woman.